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the fiscal cliff is defense cuts and high taxes welcome to the republican party. >> rational people say that's not a good thing to do. i would hope that robert and sober behavior before new year's eve would land like an alien rocketship in washington and get these people to the table. >> greg: alice, you are sane, i believe. what do you make of this? the point i'm trying to make is why are the democrats scared of the fiscal cliff when it defines basically their ultimate dream? the democrats are anxious. they are embracing the fiscal cliff. we got obamaened a democrats in the conservative thunder bird ready to put the pedal to the metal on the fiscal cliff. they can raise taxes. they can cut military spending and they can blame the g.o.p. when the g.o.p. is doing the smart thing here wanted pointing the finger at the real problem, which is out of control spending. fixing this problem is not going to be easy but it's not complicated. we can't rely on raising taxes. we have to focus on cutting spending. that's what republicans are doing. even more so with geithner pointing out warning us o
the fiscal cliff is defense cuts and high taxes welcome to the republican party. >> rational people say that's not a good thing to do. i would hope that robert and sober behavior before new year's eve would land like an alien rocketship in washington and get these people to the table. >> greg: alice, you are sane, i believe. what do you make of this? the point i'm trying to make is why are the democrats scared of the fiscal cliff when it defines basically their ultimate dream? the...
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if it does go to the fiscal cliff and we go over it, sequestration would cut only $109 billion next year. that is actually not a lot in a budget of almost four trillion, is it? >> it's not a lot of the total number, half of that goes to defense which are own admirals and generals have said and secretary of defense would be devastating. this comes on top of -- $50 billion in one year to the defense. and it doesn't touch at all medicare and the other entitlement programs. >> gregg: biggest drivers and cost and absolutely nothing has been done about those things? >> it's criminal. she is things are going to destroy us. we can live with higher taxes, you might not think it's the best idea on the rich. i think it's a way to go about it but we can't survive we are without adjusting our entitlement reform unless it is addressed. >> gregg: jamie weinstein, it's criminal -- i didn't take it that far but you do did. >> without a fiscal cliff teal the pentagon is bracing for $500 billion but that is over the next decade and raises questions how military leaders plan to keep the nation safe. >> last
if it does go to the fiscal cliff and we go over it, sequestration would cut only $109 billion next year. that is actually not a lot in a budget of almost four trillion, is it? >> it's not a lot of the total number, half of that goes to defense which are own admirals and generals have said and secretary of defense would be devastating. this comes on top of -- $50 billion in one year to the defense. and it doesn't touch at all medicare and the other entitlement programs. >> gregg:...
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around the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff actually a democrat's dream? all that's missing are vegan lunches and yoga in classrooms. you have high taxes and defense cuts. you must be giddy good going over the cliff. >> not me, i don't want to go over the cliff. i have investments, i work for a living, and guess what? it would be absolutely traumatic for the american economy and the global economy and the recession is not exactly in the midst of a strong recovery. it's pretty weak, so i don't think it's good news for anybody and this is something that the press doesn't pay attention to, greg. i think that if obama has to start a second term with everybody saying, oh my gosh, the sky is falling, the economy is going to hell, then consumer confidence thinking, that's not good news for democrats, so why would you think it's good news for democrats? >> because you just sounded like a republican. >> oh sclop! get out of here. >> you're saying that hurts the party. welcome to the republican party. >> rags nam people say that's not a good thing to do. i would hop
around the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff actually a democrat's dream? all that's missing are vegan lunches and yoga in classrooms. you have high taxes and defense cuts. you must be giddy good going over the cliff. >> not me, i don't want to go over the cliff. i have investments, i work for a living, and guess what? it would be absolutely traumatic for the american economy and the global economy and the recession is not exactly in the midst of a strong recovery. it's pretty...
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to government spending. >> now, you mentioned two years ago shall the spending cuts, the fiscal cliff, it was designed to force washington to deal with the nation's long-term debt problem. and instead, here we are, a final hour, who knows what will happen next and i want to specifically ask you about the lack of progress on those structural issues like entitlement spending because even the plan c isn't touching that. so that means regardless of what happens before january 1st, investors will then be dealing with a certain degree of political risk long-term after the fiscal cliff deadline has passed. so, how will that affect the market on the economy in terms of spending cuts? >> well, my fear is that the compromise will be that we get the tax increases and they postpone the spending cuts and that's the ultimate objective. >> yes he. >> and you know, that is something that the economy will recover from and something will adjust to. remember, about half of the increased taxes on the average individual come from simply the roll off of that fica tax break we received the last two years, s
to government spending. >> now, you mentioned two years ago shall the spending cuts, the fiscal cliff, it was designed to force washington to deal with the nation's long-term debt problem. and instead, here we are, a final hour, who knows what will happen next and i want to specifically ask you about the lack of progress on those structural issues like entitlement spending because even the plan c isn't touching that. so that means regardless of what happens before january 1st, investors...
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it's a shame in this nation where every developed country in the world knows our fiscal cliff is our fiscal solvency you have to have these leverage points. sit down and solve the problem because we know it's our greatest threat. that's not the case here. we have a president who has not laid out a plan. is he on yulingsly a spendaholic. >> dave: here is the problem for republicans though. if there is no deal out of the senate he will say okay i need an up or down vote on the $250,000 up or down mark. if republicans want to go on record to say no on that. that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told about meetings about ways to avoid the fiscal cliff. not su
it's a shame in this nation where every developed country in the world knows our fiscal cliff is our fiscal solvency you have to have these leverage points. sit down and solve the problem because we know it's our greatest threat. that's not the case here. we have a president who has not laid out a plan. is he on yulingsly a spendaholic. >> dave: here is the problem for republicans though. if there is no deal out of the senate he will say okay i need an up or down vote on the $250,000 up...
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cliff, automatic tax increases for everybody and deep spending cut that will affect the defense department and entitlement programs. what do you think? deal or no deal, and if they do reach a deal, can they get it done? >> well, they've got to reach a deal. this is just ridiculous. it was a point after the election where i actually believed -- i don't know about you -- that they had gotten the message that people wanted two houses, the president and congress, republicans and democrats. the people wanted government to work and for people to work together. there was a very short period of time when the speaker came back and he's meeting with the president and he said, maybe these children have actually grown up, with all due respect. now here we are. what are we going to do, pray? new year is tuesday? these consequences would be terrible. you've got working people whose paychecks would get eaten into. you got people who would pay higher taxes who can barely afford it now. unemployment benefits running out. this is just not okay for them to be sitting in their separate corners trying to figur
cliff, automatic tax increases for everybody and deep spending cut that will affect the defense department and entitlement programs. what do you think? deal or no deal, and if they do reach a deal, can they get it done? >> well, they've got to reach a deal. this is just ridiculous. it was a point after the election where i actually believed -- i don't know about you -- that they had gotten the message that people wanted two houses, the president and congress, republicans and democrats....
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up and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. we need to do both and the president has to lead it it and if he does i'm ready to work with him and so are a lot of other republicans and democrats. >> lamar alexander demanding presidential leadership but also making that point that it's not just about taxes. it's also about spending, harris. >> harris: you and ed talk about -- you and i talk about the fact that we don't want to put too fine a point on the fact that there is acting that goes along with politics. what about the president's tone today? it sounded like he was angry. >> oh, yeah. i think from reading his body language and hearing his words as i have over these many years. you have to put into context of frustration he is feeling going back to the debt ceiling debate a year and a half ago. two summers ago where he felt and he said it then and he said it again today in another context that these are self-inflicted wounds to the economy that he thinks the republicans held him hostage on the debt ceiling a year and a half a
up and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. we need to do both and the president has to lead it it and if he does i'm ready to work with him and so are a lot of other republicans and democrats. >> lamar alexander demanding presidential leadership but also making that point that it's not just about taxes. it's also about spending, harris. >> harris: you and ed talk about -- you and i talk about the fact that we don't want to put too fine a point on the fact that there is...
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i think beyond in fiscal cliff deal there has to be a long-range plan. the simpson bowles plan i think is the one that makes most sense entitlement reform, spending cuts. and many other measures that need to happen. look, we have to have jobs and economic growth in this country he. that should be paramount in trying to resolve these economic problems. i think the congress and the president as soon as this deal is over and i think there will be one in the next week or so, short-term first, then a longer term one has to get down to job creation, economic growth, technology growth, international issues affecting our international security, this really needs to happen and it has to be bipartisan and i think we are moving in that direction right now. >> i'm going to make a final bet and prediction with you only because we are odd friends. i will bet you a gentleman's bet that the president wants the fiscal cliff and he will come back and give back the new tax increases and then there will be a huge fight over the debt ceiling and i don't see a path to any rea
i think beyond in fiscal cliff deal there has to be a long-range plan. the simpson bowles plan i think is the one that makes most sense entitlement reform, spending cuts. and many other measures that need to happen. look, we have to have jobs and economic growth in this country he. that should be paramount in trying to resolve these economic problems. i think the congress and the president as soon as this deal is over and i think there will be one in the next week or so, short-term first, then...
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it's down to the wire for fiscal cliff deal. lawmakers are trying to draft a plan under the deadline. president obama says he is optimistic they will come to an agreement if not, deep spending cuts will kick in for nearly every american. helpis one step closer for super storm sandy. senate passing a bill to provide $60.4 billion in aid for states impacted by the disaster. bill now has to pass through the house of representatives. hurricane sandy was blamed for at least 120 deaths in areas from north carolina to maine, new york, new jersey and connecticut. i'm arthel nevil, now back to fox news watch. for all the latest log on to foxnews.com. i'll see you right here at 4:00 p.m. eastern alongside gregg jarrett. >> we will make sure that f there is anything is needed we get it out immediately. i want to thank you for everything you've done and we appreciate that. >> connecticut state police lieutenant paul advance talking to people. the killer committed suicide as police closed in on him. one of many tragedies that received major
it's down to the wire for fiscal cliff deal. lawmakers are trying to draft a plan under the deadline. president obama says he is optimistic they will come to an agreement if not, deep spending cuts will kick in for nearly every american. helpis one step closer for super storm sandy. senate passing a bill to provide $60.4 billion in aid for states impacted by the disaster. bill now has to pass through the house of representatives. hurricane sandy was blamed for at least 120 deaths in areas from...